First Flow Hive Extraction Cycle How to remove honey without filtering frame by frame


music then this is it it’s time to see how the flowframes work what we are seeing are the flow frames this is an example of frames not ready for extraction no caps workers are drawing out wax absolutely not ready to drain on the right there are caps on the left uncovered still this is my apiary in the backyard the one with the back access removed is for this video viewed from the side panel of other flow frame boxes these bees are just beginning to prepare the flow frame cells these are seven frame flow supers this matches 10 frame langstroth boxes they fill frames from the center out and top down it’s a good concept to have the viewing panels on the side showing the end frame that end frame will be the last to be filled and capped this is a close up of the cell design and shows how the bees finish them off this frame is more advanced you can see that some cells are capped and edges are drawn out by the bees the nectar is appearing very viscous and will be ready soon not ready yet some people may want to know if I primed the frames with bees wax.. I did nothing to these frames they are s they come from Australia you can see capped cells here capped honey is concave brood or baby bee cells are cinnamon colored and convex the boxed below this frame are traditional and the bees do build comb there as with any other hive some have asked if honey drips down inside these frames before extracting no, honey does not drip down before extracting/draining you can see these cells are capped and ready all joints are also sealed this is the front of the hive body this is normal activity for bees on the landing board note the posture of worker bees those with heads down are ventilating the hive and drying honey those with front end raised and mouths open are guard bees, they defend the hive and it’s honey these are the guard bees that come out and chase you off if a bee bumps into your head, they are sending a message that you should go out the way you came in if you don’t leave, you may then be stung not every bee becomes a guard if that were true, there would be 1,700 guards at once this guard will attack anything that doesn’t belong to this colony I am not putting text on this video as others have complained that my text blocks their view of the bees my hives generally are tilted forward to keep rain and snow out of the hive because we are using flow frames, we have to tilt the hive body back from 2 to 5 degrees this will allow the flowframes to drain better level it also side to side these are my 2 x 4 shims I was looking for a method to provide a shelf for the honey jars here I have table saw stands I put a wooden shelf with wood stops on the ends it’s important to get this shelf level I did not open the hive and inspect the frames I simply looked at the wax caps on the frame ends they cap the ends last, so this is a good indicator of all the frame having been capped. pulling the base plug you can see there is not honey dripping inside yet put the tube in correctly with the bottom tongue going into the hive this closes the drip opening no tools needed, it’s 82 deg f, so the was is soft I use double handles I followed the practice of opening it in portions at a time, but could have opened them all at once do this on a hot day it’s 2 pm and it’s in the sun and temps in the 80’s here comes the honey I dont’ have to wear a bee suit, don’t need a smoker I would hate wearing a bee suit on a hot day like this I do have a hat with a veil on it just incase a defensive guard bee comes after me as it turned out, I did not need any protective clothing this is real time, not a time lapse sequence these jars fill quickly went really smooth in this bee yard I have seven colonies this is a very active time of day and no bees came to the back of the hive I was very surprised by that as I didn’t believe the demonstrations I had seen on YouTube It’s true, they don’t come to the back these are quart sized mason jars we staged 9 quart jars in the end we filled 9.5 quart jars my normal process open a super pull out every capped frame shake of the bees take into the honey work bench uncap the frames and let the caps/was fall into an uncapping tank then put the frames into the spinner spin out the honey filter and strain the honey which collects more parts and then collect it all in one vat all of that is eliminated with this flow extraction process no smoker no bees uit it’s working the way they said it would bees immediately know that the honey is gone they go straight into removing the cap wax and re-filling and cleaning the cells so the bees are not fooled by this method do they re-use cap wax? no the workers tear off the caps, drop them and the field workers fly out with the cap wax and dump it outside you can’t put more than three quart sized jars at a time there isn’t room some put the honey in one large bucket HUGE MISTAKE each frame has different honey and you can have special different honey in each jar if you dump it all in one, you would never know that each frame may have honey from different floral sources such as clover or goldenrod you can taste and smell the difference this yellow jacket was the only bug that flew into my honey Look at the differences in the honey jar by jar clover is in the center with traditional extraction processes, all of this would be put together and we would never see the differences left golden rod, center clover, right golden rod and buckwheat mixed this is important dripping honey and high humidity inside the hive has driven the workers outside there is a lot of honey in this hive aside from that which is in the flowhive box honey dripped inside and we extracted seven frames at one time honey dripping inside can suffocate the bees, so they must go outside the hive is tilted back so the bees can get the drips from inside on the solid base/landing board think about weather if it is going to be cold your bees may be in jeopardy of freezing to death these bees are full of honey and can’t fly for now why is this a potential problem? they will be outside for many hours if the temperatures at night can go too low your exterior honey bees may die plan to extract only when you will have mild survivable temperatures here out forecast was promising temps in the 50’s at night bees can survive that. Brood may get chilled if the heater bees are also outside these are the tubes with honey on them I let the bees clean them up expect to see your bees congregating

on the front of your hive. This is a honey feast, they are fat and friendly right now well fed bees are not generally defensive I’m up at 3:15 am and it’s time to go outside and see how the bees are doing crickets and night insects making sounds full moon all is quiet thousands of bees on the front of the hive we extracted from they are ventilating the hive very well it sounds like a fan is running there are lots of workers inside doing cleanup store keeper bees may move honey around inside and organize the honey stores all of my colonies/hives have upper vents they will work their way back inside the hive
but were out all night without the flow frame honey, these bees already have stored enough honey for winter Do not take off all of your bees stored resources if you do not leave enough honey you must feed your bees feeding bees is not as good as the honey they make for themselves I don’t want my bees to “survive” I want them to “Thrive” so I don’t take all of their honey you can see the bees have already uncapped all of the drained cells bees don’t sleep they work 24/7 they are already re-filling the cells interesting I cannot stress enough that you should not extract during cold weather if you missed your chance with warm weather, don’t do it! look at these colors, flavors and scents…. straight from the flow-frames and into jars total of 34.43 pounds of honey is it ready? what is the water content? this is a refractometer designed specifically to show the water content I will be testing from the outer most frames as they would have the most amount of unfinished cells some were not capped this is calibrated we want honey that is less than 18% water over 20% and it will ferment here it shows that it’s at 17.5% water so the worst quality honey I took off is just fine for storage and will not ferment always test your honey there is a knife test where honey runs down the blade and if it’s good, it won’t drip until it reaches the end, but I prefer this testing method I identified the end frame honey with brown lids on the jars weight the jars and take off the weight of empty jars with lids to know the amount of honey you would have how much can you earn? we sell one quart for $20.00 so you would have earned $190.00 from the sale of this honey this flow super is not their only resource, keep in mind that your bees need honey the bees are already working the wax and filling cells less than 24 hours later we don’t use Queen excluders we have had no eggs placed in the flow frames if they do, I will share that in future videos here you can see some honey in the bottom of the frames the bees sealed these two frames too well nothing leaked down in these frames, they drained the way they should have bees clean up all of the dripped honey here is a yellow jacket, always present I hope you liked this video I hope I answered your questions enjoy your bees they fly up to 3 miles in every direction know your honey bee keeping neighbors also happy bee keeping!!! music plays

Comments

  1. Hi Everyone! I demonstrated a SECOND extraction with this hive and experienced somewhat different results. You can view that video here https://youtu.be/GdYSNuAHigs Almost no leaking the second time activating the same frames.

  2. I notice that the emblem on your flow frames are the original flow hive brand. Have you ever tried a generic flow frame. I would like to use flow frames but the FlowHive brand is super expensive compared to an off brand that I can get on Amazon. I will be a new beekeeper and I don't want to start out on a bad note. BTW, your video is fantastic…very informative.

  3. Do you have to open all the chambers at one time, or can you open only one or two every other day so the bees won't be overwhelmed?

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  5. Very nice video! Very educative and nicely narrated! Keep up the good work! Thank you for your great videos about bees, they are very appreciated.

  6. What a time to be alive. I have a backyard perfectly suited to a small flow hive, so this will definitely be my next investment.

  7. Wow it really does put it in perspective of why we have the term "busy bee" and the ventilation bees should be nick named "twerker bees"

  8. I love how this method not only provides a quick and seamless way to collect pure, filtered honey, but it also allows for minimal distress on the bees as well. Working with nature! not against it!

    Fantastic hive idea! Just wow!

  9. i feel like flow frames lose honey comb and wax harvesting not to mention your bees are not drawing out cells i guess it works but i wont ever use

  10. I don't know how I made my way to your videos, but I'm glad I did! I didn't want the video to end. So neat, and sharing! Thank you!

  11. Purchased before finding your videos but am likely to get another one. Can’t find your discount link…is it valid for Australia?

  12. Fredrick you have some incredible videos, thank you for all the work you put into them. Now that you've had the Flow supers for a couple of years we're wondering how they're holding up after years of use? The high price is a concern if they don't hold up after continued use. Thank you for your input, Brian and Rhi

  13. Such a wonderful video Fred. You were so professional and compassionate in explaining things. I subscribed and looking forward to more. Thanks

  14. So interesting, thank you very much for this informative film. We have a flow hive but no bees as yet. Can't wait!

  15. Just a general question, but could you alleviate some of the heat stress by shading the hive? Like a canopy or just something that provides a first layer to block the sun before it hit's the hive? Just seems like a waste of energy/labor to have a dozen or so bees fanning the hive. edit Second question: Do you feel that bees will intentionally/consciously separate the honey by pollen source? And maybe not like, by flower breed, but maybe by a certain taste/color of the pollen (similar pollen gets grouped up)?

  16. Hi Frederick I would love a flow hive, but I don't think my neighbours would be comfortable with the amount of bees flying around the garden, is it possible to open a frame a day, would it be less stressful for me and the bees?

  17. As a former pro beekeeper, I'm cracking up at the idea of calling extraction off because of guard bees.

    It's a neat hive though,

  18. Gary's Wife sez: OMG you are like the Bob Ross of Beekeepers !!!!! 🙂 I could listen to you all day. What a wonderful lesson on Beekeeping. I am brand new at it and hope to be able to get some Free Flow Hives in the future. Have 35 acres in the high plains near Pikes Peak (central Colorado) with no one real close all around. No one growing any GMO in my area. Have strown a massive amount of wild flower seed all over the property. Supposed to pick up my first "package" this weekend in Denver (3 hour round trip drive). I am so excited to start the beekeeping. I have about 400 canning jars all accumulated (many bought in boxes at the flea market in the city. So excited. Thank you for the wonderful video.

  19. Thank you so much for the guard bee information ! Never knew that and so comforting to understand more about bees that I wish only to care for whatever I do.

  20. The ending of your video just brings home the reality we live in heaven and need only see all the aspects of that to forget all that would steal such knowledge from our being. There is a world of love and kindness waiting for us all though it's been so very hidden. Thanks again for your care for our green space and the living things within it.

  21. I'm wearing headphones while watching, and at 7:55 I started shaking my head I thought there are bees on my head lol.

  22. so theoretically speaking if you had some of these set up in a massive field of clover then just dumping it all into a bucket wouldnt matter?

  23. with the frames on the side it is quite easy to see, if the cells are capped, but how to you see if the ones in the middle are capped? you can see the first row of cells on the back, and even here it's quite hard to judge.
    or do you remove the frame, look at it, put it back in and extract the honey? that would be kind of a contradiction to this invention.

    Apart from that, I, as a beekeeper think these frame are interesting. Dont know why beekeepers go crazy about it. But I am somewhat skeptical, since I cannot really see the benefits of that system for me. In honey harvesting time I check my hives regularly, to see if they want to swarm. So I have to open the hives anyway.
    I could save money because I do not need a honey extractor with flow frames, but the frames are so expensive, that this advantage is neglected for me.

  24. Out of all the vids i have watched this is the best thank you bees but i don't like honey but love the bees in my garden and not for the bees we would not be hear

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  26. I can't tell you how many times I watched this video! My dream vid would be a full-length movie of just the bees buzzing and the honey flowing. Thanks again Fred!

  27. First time watching your channel! I’m very impressed with this video. Educational value is off the charts, presentation / narration was clear and precise. I will subscribe. Thank you for putting the effort forward to create your content.

  28. I'm just starting to think about getting in to bee keeping. Would you recommend the flow hive for a beginner? Also would you recommend bees that are native to our area.

  29. Great Presentation! You should be a Produces/ Director for Hollywood. Or maybe not.
    I was just going to ask if bees sleep. Then you said they don't sleep and work 24/7.

  30. Wow Fred, loved the ending especially, nice drone fade with the music. You have to be my favorite videographer and beekeeper! Don't tell the other guys.

  31. I don't know anything about beekeeping or honey extracting but this is my 4th video tonight about it lol…I'm just fascinated right now. I have one question though…The first Flow Hive video that I watched by somebody else…his honey seemed much darker….do different shades of honey indicate different things?

  32. Excellent vid, Something has caught my curiosity though – as you articulate so well that the bees stock different types of honey in different frames, what if this represents a variable diet for the ladies of your hive? That they store from each seasonal source as blooms cascade across the seasons means that your hive has many kinds of different nutrient profiles stored from the year's efforts across different frames. Could removing part of their variation weaken the constitution of the hive? And if so, would it be possible to set up a half catch flow frame instead of taking the whole collection?
    Thank you for this great video. I am a hair away from buying a flow hive on the strength of this presentation.

  33. During extraction of honey, what technology makes honey to flow from top to bottom, after Each cells are capped by bees wax. After removing bees wax only, honey can flow know. But an awesome video!
    Super chamber is at the top, the other chambers are brood chambers. Is it

  34. What is your procedure at the end of the year approaching winter (Emptying, storage, prep for next year)?

  35. Amazing to watch. I am so saddened that the colonies are struggling and more people should keep bees to learn about them and to encourage their propagation!

  36. What happens to bees if you get snow, does it hurt them or do they stay inside until the snow goes away?

  37. Those drone fellas got it figured out, man! They just kick back and let the "honey-mamas" take care of them.. 😁👍👌✌

  38. The honey leaking inside the hive is unacceptable, have you contacted the flow hive people about this issue.

  39. Thank you so much for sharing! I’ve learned so much about not only flow hive, but also bee-keeping. This is your first video that I’ve watched and I will go on to many more. 😊

  40. Incredibly informative. Really been watching flow hi e since its kickstarter entry. Thrilled to know from someone as well informed as your self it looks like a winner. Great over all information as well. Thank you

  41. Hi Frederick! I have what I am sure is a novice question, but I am here to learn. Is there any concern about the hive building brood cells in the flow hive frames? If so, how would you deter this? If not, why? Thanks for the great videos

  42. Why are the bees that I see in bee keeping videos so much larger than the bees that I see out and about in the wild? Originally from Mississippi, USA

  43. Awesome video brother. You should be making national geographic documentories awesome voice and great cinematography. Use thst voice for TV commercials or audio books at the very least.

  44. Frederick, I love your video content, it was beautifully made and edited. The ending of video was awesome. I also love the close up of the bees when you were describing the guard bees and worker bees.

  45. Thank you very much. I am a new novice and have not started my hive as of yet. I am still accumalting knowledge so that I will have a strong start. You provided allot of information and i really enjoyed the content. Again thank you.

  46. This is a great video. Thank you for taking the time to do this. Much appreciated. I was a bit skeptic though when you said bees do not sleep. Some quick research shows that bees do actually sleep. This in itself makes for a interesting read: https://askdruniverse.wsu.edu/2018/07/31/where-do-bees-sleep/

  47. Thank you for the subtitles… people do not realise, that some people are hear-impaired and I teach English in Germany and make my students watch videos on Youtube. It helps them to understand even better what is said, when they can read along. Therefore thank you very much for the extra work you put in!

  48. Another GREAT Australian invention. I LOVE watching videos like this. Thank you so much. It really makes me want to start beekeeping.

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