Flow Hive How Much Honey Does a Flow Hive actually produce? Backyard Beekeeping


okay first of all happy Friday everyone
this was my last honey extraction from the flow hives here in my backyard
apiary and things did not go as planned I’m gonna share with you my personal
failure certainly you’ve watched my past honey flow extractions here and seeing
how neat and tidy things are behind the hives and the bees stay out of the way
the bees come and go in the front and your extracting in the back and just having
a good old time drinking coffee whatever while you watch the honey come out but
things can go wrong the reason I’m making this video is because I thought
it would be fun to show my last extraction and I’m taking it off from my
original flow super here it is from the front you can see that’s just a super
I’m wearing a veil today and it’s 82 degrees so I’m just wearing the t-shirt
keeping the veil on I don’t want the bees in my face showing off my new
glasses here I can see better maybe make better videos who knows this is the
landing board activity and I use this little bottle jack to jack it up to that
2 degree tilt to the back because remember this is just the flow super
these are Mann Lake Deeps as far as the bottom board goes we have entrance
reducers on because this time of year robbing activity is high from other bees
so we need to be careful and make sure to protect those colonies as best we can
so all of my colonies have entrance producers those are just rolled-up
screens which allow them can to continue to ventilate the hive dehydrate their
honey and go ahead and protect themselves from invasion from
Yellowjackets or even other honey bees this is the last super I’m extracting
from look at the mistake I made I underestimated the amount of honey that
would come out from one flow frame normally I put these half gallon jars in
and a half gallon is more than enough they’ll fill it and that’s it then I go
to the next one but what happened was his first frame I pulled from look
at the honey dripping down the back of the box there it filled the jar to the
top and I had hot-swap it so I had to pull that elbow out and put in another
jar no way to avoid leaking so now the honey came out the bees smelled it they
came around to the back and now they made my extraction process a little bit
challenging here notice the handles are only half way in
we only extract half the frame at a time look this was the first jar filled all
the way to the top unbelievable I either had to leave it sitting there
to fill over or put another jar in so I put another jar in honey ran down the
back bees discovered it wasps discovered it now I have wasps and bees flying all
over behind the hive exactly where I don’t want them to be so now we have two
going at once every one of these flow frames produced more than a half gallon
of honey each this time I have no idea what’s going on you can see these are
wide mouth mason jars half gallon in the foreground red and gray no difference
other than the fact that they had different colors but if I was not using
these Recap mason jar lids I’d really be in a pickle here because these lids just
happen to have a hole in them the perfect size for those 3/4 inch tubes to
go in these are my other flow supers and flow hives
they’ve all been extracted we did three cycles of honey extraction this year so
it’s been great this hive we’re looking at is a late swarm collection boy they
built up fast it’s full of honeycomb in the feeder box on the top of it that’s
the only one being fed now look what’s going on here we have chaos I can’t even
pull the tube off to swap out and go to the next frame it’s touch-and-go here
because the bees are all over everything because they’ve tasted honey and we’re
right here in the apiary we have seven colonies in this location the good news
is they can’t get in to the back of the flow hive they also cannot get in to the
jar that the honey’s training into but the pickle for me is that I have to swap
jars and put new jars on so we can do the next frame look at the honey it’s
fantastic so we still you can see here we have three Center frames that we’re
going to extract from and as I mentioned before this is the last extraction of
the season this is my last flow super that I’m pulling from and this is the
original flow super when I got into flow hives that I first extracted from in
2016 so it’s still going great now after I use the elbow setups that I have here
I set them to the side and let the bees clean them up since the bees are already
raiding behind here where I’m standing they are more than happy to fill these
tubes and it is amazing how this little pack of wasps and honeybees will move
right through the tubes and clean them up just like you took them to your
kitchen one of the problems this year is there is a huge number of Yellowjackets
all around I don’t know what’s going on they have not successfully raided or
defeated any of my honeybee colonies but throughout my property there are just
Yellowjackets everywhere they’re on the flowers that were on the goldenrod
they’re on the asters and they are in direct competition with the honeybees
it’s amazing I don’t know what’s going on if you do we’re in the northeastern
United States and the Great Lakes region if you know why we have a yellowjacket
bloom I’d be interested in knowing more about that the reason I’m showing this
angle of the half gallon jar there is because it makes it look epic because I
want you to know that the effort expended by honeybees to bring this
honey end is an epic activity they are doing an incredible amount of work so
don’t you dare sell your honey cheap look how clear
this honey is this is one of the center frame so it’s clover honey the outer
frames of course are later in the season so those are asters and goldenrod clover
honey is like the lightest honey that we have coming out and here we have the bee
probably wishing its honey wasn’t going away notice that there are two boxes
there’s a deep brood chamber and then there’s this medium
honey super the honey super right now next to the jar lid there is
wall-to-wall capped frames of honey so they have enough to get them through
winter we’re pulling off this flow super after this extraction we’re gonna
leave it for a couple of days for the bees to clean it up a little bit then
we’re pulling off every flow super and we’re going to put them out for cleanup
and then we’re gonna store them for winter we are not leaving any flow
supers on any of the colonies through winter because we want those flow frames
out also because we’re going into that late season dearth the bees wasps and
other nectar hungry insects are going to be looking for honey resources so it’s a
great time to let them clean things up and that’s what I do every year I let
them clean out the frames and we put them in storage and then we’ll start
again fresh in spring so if you’re in my region and you’re thinking about and
wondering when you should be pulling off your flow frames drain them now if
they’re capped and pull them and condense your colonies now for winter so
here we are again another gallon we got I think we got almost 4 gallons of honey
from this flow super and we got three extractions from this flow sweeper
through the year so the bees have been performing great they’re all very
healthy this is a beginning cleaned up this is not a fellowship or a you know
friendly behavior they are jumping all over each other to lick every bit of
honey they can get ahold of now of course the reason I was extracting is
because the weather is turning storms are coming in and it’s going to rain
overnight and the temperature is going to drop into the 50s so I wanted to wrap
this up and get as much honey out as we could
and then pull that super here are those same tubes look how well the bees
cleaned them up and the activity has dropped way off of course hot swapping
tubes with bees all over you in the back behind the colony was a huge challenge
and I wish I could have shown it to you but I’m hand holding the camera today so
I’m doing the camera work and the beat work and a water surgical gloves in
order to keep my hands clean so that I wouldn’t get the camera all stick it up
there and to give myself some dexterity now look at all these yellow jackets
some of these are Queens so the Yellow Jackets have stopped collecting meat so
the bees aren’t in jeopardy for the meat portion but they’re going to nectar
exclusively so they can overwinter and look at this little Yellow Jacket
cleaning up the honey that was on the glove now here we are today it’s October
12th it is only forty-five degrees Fahrenheit and things have changed
dramatically so flow supers are pulled hives are condensed we’re getting ready
for winter thanks for watching I hope you found this entertaining and don’t underestimate the amount of honey that is in those flow
frames or you can have yourself a sticky situation thanks for watching!

Comments

  1. The yellow jackets here in Montana have been just insane had to Nas up in my attic and had one in a brush brush pile and I’m highly allergic I didn’t stone twice by yellow jackets this year

  2. Hey Frederick there is a New Zealand product that helps with wasps. Check it out here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB-yEs0iVck

  3. well with all this rain even honey bees are having a hard time foraging i think the yellow jackets are just looking to rob

  4. So, now that you've had some flow supers for a couple years, what's your final take on them? Better or worse than traditional?
    Also, thanks for making a video where you show mistakes. I like seeing humility in recognized experts.

  5. Is there any way to finagle a shut off valve for the tubes that you place into the back of the hives? That would be very handy in this case. Just shut the valve off as the jar is just about full. Then replace it with another jar and turn the valve back on and continue. I don't know why that hive company didn't think of that. Or, you could maybe find even bigger jars with the same mouth size for the lids.

  6. Love you videos. In my part of Idaho my flow supers are pulled the last week in August. Thank you again for your videos

  7. I live in Colorado and I see more yellow jackets these last 2 years. I also see an increase in little blue bees and mud wasps as well.

  8. If I remember correctly each flow frame holds five pounds. With water a pint’s a pound the world around. 1/2 gallon is 8 cups which is 4 pints. Unless the density of honey is over 1.25 times honey I would expect a half gallon to be to small

  9. Lol lol shows u how much honey is wasted thru the extraction process there is new flow hive hybrid some normal frames some flow hive frames –u need bigger jars saw some interesting vids about flow hives in Alaska

  10. Hi Frederick, Really enjoy watching your videos. I have few question I have three FlowHives classic now.

    Do you allow your bees to swarm or do you perform artificial swarm control?

    How many brood boxes does your strongest hive have?

    Do you replace your queens with newly mated queens?

    Do you re-unite colonies to get a high honey yield?

  11. Mr Dunn! We finally made the decision to go with a couple of flowhives! This is another great video and we kept waiting and worrying about all the problems others say the flowhives cause. YOU convinced us and we will have two in the spring. THANK YOU!!!! it is a lot of money but I think it's the best way for us keep up your excellent work!!!!!

  12. I always find your videos pleasantly educating and informative. I knew next to nothing about Apiary until I came across your videos; the way it is now, I'm silently nursing an urge to engage in it. If eventually I do, I will be knocking on your door first.
    Thank you for your bee-like dedication to this passion. Kure.

  13. Bees are amazing and fun to watch them work. Do you feed your honey back to the bees in a hive top feeder or do you bottle and use it? We had an inch of snow this morning here in the Midwest. I hope to get bees when I move to a bigger lot.

  14. I recommend watching this fellow beekeeper who found a safe solution to his yellow jacket problem. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zun-VHyLScA

  15. A study on the rise & fall of wasp populations. We've had it really bad this year in the UK but then we've had the hottest summer on record.

    https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/01/170118082436.htm

  16. The early spring in CA helped both the Bee's and wasps. Those that did not control early had an massive problem this fall. Still 80f days and 60f nights but no nectar so they are burning reserves early going to bee an interesting winter.

  17. You might want to pick up some plastic plumbing ball valves to put in line with the Flow frame piping to give you the ability to control the flow and change jars if need be.

  18. That looks amazing! Ive had "buckwheat" honey before. Its dark colored and the taste is different than clover honey.

  19. I live in south Pa, and have a question: do you have screened bottom boards? And if so, do you cover them in winter?

  20. Hello. Thank you for this video.i am new to beekeeping and am planning to get two hives in spring. Would you recommend flow hives to newbies?and what is your overall opinion about these hives.thank you.

  21. Awesome videos as always, love the bees videos specially, not a honeybee keeper but ever since started watching your videos definitely a honeybee fan

  22. Always enjoyed your videos on the Flow Hives. I bought March 2017 and harvested about 15 lbs of honey May 2018. I kept checking the Flow Hive through the front and side window but there were never much activities on the outer frames, so I never knew if there was any honey or if they were capped. In desperation, I opened the middle frame and out flowed my first harvest, also from the frame to the left and right of it! The emptied Flow Hive has been on another brood since May, there is a lot of activity at that hive but I still don't see anything stored in the outer frames of the Flow Hive! How do I know if there is capped honey in the middle frames, short of removing them and checking. I thought we are not supposed to removed the plastic frames once installed.. Your response or anyone else appreciated.

  23. Hai boss, I’m from India and I want the same. If u can courier to India. How much the nest & courier charges as well?

  24. Good afternoon Fred, Quick question for you. My bee's have started filling the flow hive from the center out as they should, but I fear they won't fill it due to the lack of resources. Should I remove the flow hive for the winter and how should I store it with the honey still in it. Thanks Tom @ Sunrise Circle farm.

  25. This is my 2nd year beekeeping, started with 2 hives starting in July. Increased the hives to 5 , by adding queens this spring. I had a lot of bees all around the Flow hives, but when I took them off in early October (Connecticut ) I had very little honey in the them. Is this abnormal or normal in newer hives?

  26. I'm like 3 weeks late to this video.. Thanks Youtube for not notifying me. Good thing I was curious why there was no upload from you for a long time and came to see if there was anything new. Turns out I was wrong thinking you didn't upload anything. Just Youtube is being dumb as always.

  27. Are flow hives safe for the bees, and is it safe in general to use. I mean it looks super cool but I need more info on it

  28. Could you extend some of the tubes so you could stagger the collection jars and extract all the frames at once? Sort of like this: With extenders on the outer 4?

  29. Another awesome video, thank you! How do you get the bees to move down/out of the Flow frames so you can store for the winter?

  30. I really like your videos. I have a flow hive and hope to have honey this season. I would like to know what you used and where you obtained what you used for the adapters (right angle and extension) to the honey exit. Thanks for any information.

  31. Hi Frederick
    Just letting you know due to your channel and videos on the flowhive. my flowhive 2 is now built and ready for its first bees in april or may. looking forward to your next videos.

    gareth

  32. Hi Frederick. What are your thoughts about tapping the flow hive in late evenings. Less Yellow Jackets (Wasps) & Bees in hive. What do you think? Also will you be using bigger jars next time?

  33. You mentioned that you were in the Great Lakes region. What state are you in? I am in West Michigan, and am saving for a Flow Hive.

  34. I also love your comment:. " It is epic, the amount of work these bees are doing is incredible. So, don't you dare sell your honey cheap". LOVE IT!!! It's SO true. Local honey here goes for $20/qt. I'd bee interested to know what honey sells for in other parts of the country.

  35. Dear Mr. Dunn. You're videos are awesome and I so appreciate your wisdom and intelligence. I do have one request. Can you please change the music on your outro sequence, the metronome sound always leaves me feeling uncomfortable (I dont really understand why, but its true). Something more upbeat would be very in keeping with the tone of your videos. Thank you for your time and attention.

  36. I just had a thought. What if you tried putting a valve on your elbow as an emergency cutoff, just in case you underestimate again? It can very well reduce the amount of spillage.

  37. I'm not even sure why but this really did entertained me. I guess it's nice to see nice people doing honest work. So wholesome <3

  38. It's the first time i see this system! Beautiful . My father had some honey producing too but normal ones! Very interesting, i would like to see it inside! Greetings from Spain

  39. nooo
    the yellow jackets there is another hive somewhere.

    you have to follow the yellow jackets to their rogue hive.

    put a jar of sugar water their to distract the yellow jack raiders. then find something to get rid of the jacks hive & queen for good.

  40. Why don't you just use a bigger jug to fill the honey with? Or maybe a capped bag if you're worried about wasting space.

  41. I could watch your videos all day! You’re voice is so soothing & all your videos are so well presented and informative!

  42. Im guesing the slides were never full in the firstcplace an the bees just coute up to you and or theres more bees increasing production

  43. I'll be honest, "I'm running out of jars to put my honey in", is a problem I wouldn't mind having.

  44. Love your Vids. I would love to help the bees as I have a good size garden too, get a little honey for my family (it’s natures antibiotic). Everyone has mature fruit trees in my neighborhood (So Cal). I would have to keep the bee house on the side of my house tho, tract housing. It would be 5’ from my house. Do you see any problems with this?

  45. I've seen other videos where they use 5 gallon pails and a manifold to connect all the tubes into one and they can empty the whole hive in one shot. Then they just need to transfer the honey into jars of any size they need.

  46. How many harvests have you had from each super? I am new to the Flow hive this year and I have heard comments from the club that they work for the first couple harvests then the gum up. I hope that is not true. If you let the bees clean these up it looks like they would be good to go the next year.
    Thanks

  47. Hello there. Just wanted to know how much honey can I extract in one season out of one bee flow hive ? I want to make my own honey and I would like to know if the investment is worthy, regarding the fact that I will NOT sell any bit of honey. Thank You 😀

  48. Thanks for the inspiration and motivation to revisit my abandoned interest in beekeeping. My grandfather designated me official family beekeeper in my teens, but due to issues beyond my control, I couldn't attend my duties as necessary. I'm so glad to remember so much that I learned back then, now these several decade later. Much has changed about many things except the bees. I will be so much easier now!

  49. I've heard a great many comments from beekeepers against flowhives; I don't actually keep bees myself (although I'm considering it). Could you explain some of the disadvantages?

  50. How does the flow hive hold up over the years? I heard you say that you take the flow hive out for the winter…. when do you do that and is there another honey super on the hive to get them though the winter? Could you do a video about taking them out for winter even if it’s not the right time of year? Please just go through the process because I don’t hear anyone else take them out for the winter, which seems to make a lot of sense. Thank you!

  51. It's probably already been suggested but what about using a basic PVC ball valve on the spout to help out with hot swapping your jars? Just a thought. Really enjoying these Flow Hive videos, thanks for sharing your experiences!

  52. Make some wasp traps baited with meat a few days before you extract. You will kill all wasps around your property in no time.

  53. You'll have to do some scouting and locate the in ground nests yellow jackets prefer as well as under all eaves and overhangs. You can try to follow them as they will like ants generally fly straight as arrow back to the nest after feeding/collecting. You'll at least get a good idea of the direction then just scour everything in that area especially looking for wasps coming in and out of the ground. Then it's just a matter of destroying the nest, good thing is if you use no caustic chemicals you can collect the larvae yellow jackets and feed them to Chickens who love them! It's always a good idea every spring to walk about and get to those nests before they get too large, makes it much easier to handle and you won;t have so many out causing trouble lol

  54. The yellow jackets are pretty easy to follow back to their nest. (I dont keep bees) but just watch where they fly when they leave. Take note of the direction when you lose them, then follow them from that spot again some other day. It only takes a few minutes each time to plot where they live, and you can destroy the nests if they are causing you problems (I presume they are a pest species where you live. If not I guess, let them be, but in Australia, they are an introduced pest, so I have no problem destroying the nest (in fact our local council will destroy the nests for you if you can identify where they are) After watching a few of your videos, I figure you probably already know this, but I thought others might benefit) Your hemisphere is always introducing pest species to ours. (although I'm pretty grateful for the bees your hemisphere sent us all those years ago, so thanks 🙂 )

  55. Canned cat food and ant bait … Yellow jackets like meat, carry it back to their queen and larve … They feed it to the queen, kills every yellow jacket nest around … Last year I lost 49 hives to yellow jackets, this year I don't even see them anymore! Only used 5 cans of cat food all year!

  56. Fred, love your videos! Here in Florida, we have screened bottom boards because of varroa and SHB. Thus when we open the flow frames, the leakage does not pool on the bottom board, but leaks down on the ground, or whatever emergency tray that I stick under it…. seems like there should be some way to catch that spillover honey in the hive, rather than the mess that occurs. I also use "long box" hives, with the flow frames in the center, 2 or 3 of them, rather than the full 7, with vertical queen excluders on both sides of the flow frames. So there is no brood box under the flow frames either. I tap the flow frames more often, since the bees can fill 2 frames much faster than 7.

  57. Hi, I have my first Flow Super! So excited. So do you use the elbow to go directly into the ReCap Mason jar lid? Also, why did you use two flow keys to open up the cells? Thanks

  58. Fur or pine trees along with many conifers emit a chemical that trigger the yellow jackets to start elevated activity. Does your region have these trees?

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