How To Extract Honey with Flow Hive Supers and ReCap Mason Jar Lids Easiest Method


okay even though I’ve pretty much said
and shown all there is to say about the flow hives and the flow supers today I’m
gonna talk to you a little bit about something I’ve found it’s from a company
called recap mason jars and they make lids for your glass mason jars that
serve a variety of purposes and they’ve put stuff out for beekeepers but what
was really neat for me was when I was looking at these lids and that pop top
comes open it’s 3/4 3/4 of an inch so I was thinking maybe I could make elbows
for the flow frames and we could stick those inside these lids and then there
would be no bees or wasps or Yellowjackets getting into the honey
while we’re draining flow frames and when you get flow frames you get lots of
these tubes so you can play around with them you really only need you know one
or two tubes during extraction so I took one here and I cut each of them at 45
degrees and then I just glued them together with 100% silicone to make a 90
degree elbow and then this is a food-grade 90 degree elbow that I found
on Amazon schedule 40 that thing is expensive I paid $11 for that plastic
elbow but I think that’s overkill because it’s really designed for
industrial food processing equipment this is the underside of one of the
recap mason jar lids and it shows they have replaceable gaskets for those and
these things right out of the package are basically ready for the flow hive so
today in this video I’m gonna take this out to the apiary and we’re gonna hook
these up and see how they work the advantage is if you’ve watched my past
videos I’ve always had to catch and collect primarily Yellowjackets that
come around when we’re extracting honey from flow frames and this company is
actually targeting flow hive so it’s interesting plus there’s this
lid that goes in a normal quart size jar that pops open so if you had candy
Tunney you could get a spoon in there but I’m not really interested in that
one I like the one that’s got the pour spout so and this is showing the wide
mouth lids on the right is the traditional ball jar metal lids now they
have a plastic lining on the inside but over time they do rust a little bit and
they’re designed for canning I’m not interested in canning I’m just
collecting honey and oftentimes the wind will be blowing or as I said bugs try to
get into the honey while you’re extracting and I think that this method
is going to contain it while we’re extracting from the flow frames so now
we’re out in the apiary we have a beautiful sunny day you can see that the
Sun is high we’re doing this around noon ish and that’s because during this time
of day the bees are out working and very few of them we’re in the hive don’t
forget to tilt your hive back this hive just has a flow super on it if it were a
regular flow hive they’re already tilted back so you don’t have to do that and
here they are so I have two half gallon jars and I’m just giving you a close-up
look of these flow frames and they’re capped honey and this will be the third
extraction from this particular flow super so these have been in use for over
a year we have high wind conditions today I noticed that sometimes people
set out their jars to collect from their flow frames and the honey
while it’s dripping down to the jar it just blows out to the side so these are
going to eliminate that I’m also showing you a close-up of how I set up my shelf
I made what I’m calling a sag shelf I use these table saw supports with
rollers on them to support the shelf but that’s actually too tall so by making a
modified shelf it’ll sit low enough that I can put these half gallon jars on and
now you’ve probably seen me do this several times before but I’m doing it
again we’re just pulling out the little plugs at the bottom of the flow frames
and we’re going to stick in my homemade elbow here on the right which is just
the flow tubes that come with the flow frames and I cut them and glue them with
100% silicone so we’re gonna compare that with here on
the left that expensive food grade industrial plastic elbow and we’re gonna
see if there’s any difference you know obviously the one on the left is really
strong the one on the right is just kind of a butt joint where you just push the
two pieces together but I see no reason why they wouldn’t hold up so and now
we’re just pulling off the upper access and we’re using that screwdriver tip on
the flow handles here and you’re gonna hear them kind of crack a little bit as
we open these up because they’re sealed pretty well with propolis from the bees
and remember we always start off I’m only sticking them in about half the
distance from the front to the back we’re not opening the entire length of
these flow frames at one time because as we’ve seen in the past sometimes it
overwhelms the drain tube and then there’ll be more leaking into the hive
so we’ve learned to avoid that by doing partials and again also not opening a
whole bunch of frames at once so we have two half gallon glass jars here made by
Baal and then of course we have the two wide-mouthed recap mason jar lids with
the pop tops and the other thing is – we’re gonna leave these lids on because
now they’re just port hops but I want you to see look at how snug that fits no
bug is gonna get in there so it also leaves enough so there’s kind of an air
gap too we don’t want to create air pressure inside and slow down the
filling process and this kind of shows you a look at my sag bench here my sag
shelf that allows you to put your support lower than the actual rollers
that are supporting the shelf and the one on the right is filling a little
faster than the one on the left and that’s because I don’t think I opened up
enough of the frames at first and I used half gallon jars because we
know from past experience that there’s never been more than half a gallon of
honey in a frame on the flow hive so that’s pretty safe you don’t have to
stand there worried about swapping out quart jars for example now some people
do take their jars and they put cellophane over it and I’m also seeing
on YouTube yes I look at the other flow high videos out there and I see that
people like to hook up like four or five tubes at once and run them right into
that five-gallon bucket or what people call a honey bucket that’s got the honey
cane at the bottom and I’m gonna caution you not to do that because frame by
frame especially this time of year we’re in August and it’s August 23rd
this time of year the frames have unique flavors of honey in them if you combine
them all into one big container again you’re mixing the the flavors and you’re
not benefiting from that individuality frame by frame and again this is just a
close-up look at the diametrical clearance here between that
three-quarter inch tube in the opening on these recap lids it’s like they were
made for it’s really perfect and we’re almost up to the 1500 milliliter level
here so we are getting full loads out of these frames and I did do water testing
on these after we were done and it ranged anywhere from 15% water to 17%
water so it was all really good now an advantage to to setting them on the
bench and putting tubes in like this is you can leave them there and go do other
things you don’t have to stand guard as I used to and catch the Yellowjackets as
they came around I used to pull them out with chopsticks that’s done the wind can
blow as strong as it wants to and these things are completely covered and
completely protected so you could go look at wildflowers for
example you’ll wander around you can do other bee chores in your beat yard you
don’t have to sit there and keep watch over your flow frames while they’re
draining just go away and come back later you definitely don’t want to close
them off too early anyway because if you close off your flow jars too soon while
you’re collecting honey the trough at the bottom actually will fill up with
honey so you definitely want to leave them long enough for them to completely
drain when it goes to just a little bit of Dripping that’s when you know you can
close them up and cap off your jars and go back to taking care of your bees or
doing whatever else you want to do we make sure to grow lots of pollen
producing plants on my property even though bees get several miles to
forage it’s always helpful to have as much pollen local to your bees as
possible nectar is another thing that the pollen is really what’s going to
keep your hives strong so in summary you know don’t waste your money as I did on
this 90 degree schedule for tea elbow make your own cut 45s on those tubes
that are already provided by Flo and just get one hundred percent silicon
sealer and butt joint those two together and you’ve got a 90 degree elbow get
those recap mason jar lids too and you’re all set thanks for watching I
hope this helped you get thinking about how you might better control the honey
coming out of your flow hive

Comments

  1. Another great video. I'm going to have to look into those lids for next year. No honey from the Flow super this year.

  2. Just another thought maybe u could use good grade hose or tubing u can by at several diy stores? Just heat to bend 😉😁👍🐝🐝🐝🐝🍯🍯🍯

  3. Great video as always. I am thinking about getting a flow hive and a regular hive when I start beekeeping next year. Would two hives be too much for a first timer?

  4. You could have purchased clear plastic tubing from Home Depot for less than 3 dollars a yard. It's food grade too and it's flexible. Basic elbows used for water pipes are food grade too, and they are usually 50 cents.

  5. is that the same super that the queen got into a while back? and if it is, how did you reclaim your expensive brood box?

  6. I really enjoy your videos because I learn so much. This one was especially good for working smarter, not harder. Cheers!

  7. u should contact the ppl in australia sell them the patent and become a squi;llionaire – i suppose in australia we dont have that prob with yellow jackets maybe flies

  8. Hi Frederick, looks like a no brainer. I just ordered some of those recap lids.
    As somebody else said , we do not have yellow jackets in Australia , but I do find
    that bees also will fly down into the jar and the wind can also be a problem . I just need to
    make some L shaped tubes now. Thanks for another great video.
    Regards Chas Greenway

  9. I'm very interested but don't need the other lid types. Can you call them and only order those lids? And what size do I need for the 1/2 gallon jars? Thanks I'm a 1st year beek

  10. Interesting to see someone that is happy with their flow-hive. I'm interested to see how your experience progresses, (if you will become a full convert, stay mixed or revert back to traditional extraction.) I do wonder how much is novelty and easy of inspection, (and how much of that "desire to look inside" will be sated with your new observation hive.)

  11. These videos have been extremely helpful! Thank you for them. It's one thing to read sources, but another to see it in action. My partner and I have been considering apiaries when we have a place for them, and he was fascinated with the Flow hives. (I also love that I've managed to find the beekeeping part of YouTube, from one 'Tuber i was already watching, and his foray into it…)

  12. Hi Mr. Dunn, I literally stumbled upon your channel about an hour ago so I haven't gone through all of your videos yet; I don't have any apiaries but it's one of those "maybe one day when I have my own place and yard" projects. I was wondering, when you collect honey, you mention tipping the hive forward a few degrees (and not having to do it with the regular flow frame); what's the reason for this? Sorry if this is answered in another video of yours, I'm still going through all of them haha. A google search only came up with "to let condensation drain" but this sounded like more of a hive maintenance action as opposed to a honey-collection action. Thanks!

  13. Brilliant! We have a Flow Hive but our new colony needs to get better established before they make us honey. I'll be ready with this next year!

  14. Great Lids – I just use a piece of clear food grade tubing that fits the flow tube ($.32 for 6") and bend into a hole in a Plastic Mason lid. Easy to clean and strong.

  15. So I was thinking (I do that sometimes), that if you had a spring large enough to fit on the inside of the tubes, you could heat them up, and slowly bend them, eliminating the gluing with silicone, and making a stronger, easier to clean, and fail proof 90 degree angle.

  16. Beautifully presented and extremely informative. Thank you very much for taking the time to create and post. We'll be harvesting our flow hive for the first time and we're quite excited. 🙂

  17. I purchased these and they worked very well. Thanks for recommendation. They were very well worth the price.
    Like yourself, we did experience the flow frame leaking honey into the hive and we lost quite a few bees. They were flooded quite badly.
    For our next harvest, I'll be opening only a few cells at a time, allowing the honey a bit more time to escape and not back up.
    Your videos are very helpful, thank you Frederick for your hard work.

  18. How did you get the bees to go to the flow supers? My bees would not fill the flow frames. The filled the second brood box with honey, rather than use the flow frames. they barely even sniffed the flow frames. I tried smearing wax on the frames, I tried pouring some honey on the frames, and nothing! If you have any tricks to offer to get the bees to come up, I would so appreciate it, otherwise I am not sure I'll even use them again next year. Love your videos by the way.

  19. I would think making a shelf that hangs off the edge of the hive opening. That way no other shelf support would be necessary. Perhaps you can do a video on that.

  20. Hey Frederick! First of all thank you for your videos. I am very intersted in starting a bee keeping project in my farm and i was planning to use flowhive for this project. Overall ive seen good reviews about it , but one critic that concerns me is that there is little space for bees to transit added to the plastic material makes them have alot of friction with the walls and thus shorten their lifespan and general hive health. I ask you about it because i know you are unbiased. Thanks again!

  21. Another fantastic video sir. We will be ordering 1 or 2 flow supers this season, I'm using your videos as a guide. Thank you for making such great content.

  22. Looks like you could have 4 short elbows and 3 long elbows and do all 7 combs at once…as long as that doesn't disturb the hive somehow. Seems like a no-brainer for ReCap or Flow to sell as an accessory set.

  23. seems like major overthinking about a small problem. you could use some mosquito netting or screen from an old screen door to just surround the jars/hive valves, then you could use whatever jars/containers you wanted. if the wind was a problem as a commenter here said, you could build a wood or glass/plexiglass/acrylic box (or just repurpose some old windows) to surround the jars, and again you could use whatever containers you want. lots of options other than buying specialty single-purpose products

  24. Hi Frederick, Found the food grade 3/4 elbow at www.zoro.com  11.97ea. with free shipping on orders over $50.00.   "U.S Plastic Corp" www.usplastic.com has bottles and lids for honey.

  25. What a great idea. Thanks for sharing
    You should tell the Flow Hive people, I sure they would like & recommend to use those jars and lids.

  26. The use of these jars to extract honey with the modified Flow-Tubes to form a 90 degree elbow that you introduced is a brilliant innovation and you are a genius to put this all together, to make life easier for the flow hive user. Extracting with these modified elbow tubes is the way to go. And the bees are undisturbed – and a Flow Hive must surely be less stressful for the bees. As you mentioned – you can extract the honey " with no uncapping, no filtering, no spinning" What you achieve instead is real beautiful pure honey extracted from a hive into your jar with a FlowHive while you go for a walk to view the local flowers or relax

  27. Thanks for the video. Did you use silicone sealer to glue the food-processing 90° elbow to the flow-tubes?

  28. Could you just use some silicon tubing for the bend and extra length? Assuming the size is available and it's food safe.

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